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The 7 Elements Of The Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

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Getting into a perfect lacrosse goalie stance before every shot is half the battle when it comes to making consistent saves as a lax goalie.

One of the first things a new goalie should learn is how to get setup in the proper stance that will maximize his or her ability to make saves.

When you analyze video or still images you’ll often notice that when a goalie is setup in a bad stance at the time of the shot’s release, the ball goes in.

How much you wanna bet this shot goes in?

Bad Stance - The Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

The overall governing rule for a perfect lacrosse stance is to get into an athletic position.

If there’s ever a question about your stance, just ask yourself am I in an athletic position?

A proper goalie stance is also one that we can routinely get into and is the same every time.

The stance should be comfortable and also put the goalie into the best possible position to attack the oncoming shot.

As I’ve mentioned before on this blog, there are many styles of lacrosse goaltending. Each goalie may have some differences in his or her stance however these are the 7 elements of the perfect lacrosse goalie stance and every great goalie will have these.

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Feet A Little Wider than Shoulder Width

I teach my goalies to setup with their feet a little wider than shoulder width.

This is the way I felt most comfortable in the cage. I could move in any direction out of this stance and I always felt like I was in a good athletic position.

The base stance of a lacrosse goalie is often compared to that of NFL linebacker. Lacrosse goalies obviously setup with their hands up and ready to save a shot.

You never see an NFL linebacker setup with feet only shoulder width apart standing up straight.

Some goalie coaches do recommend feet shoulder-width apart, which is fine. But any narrower then shoulder width and you’re not in an athletic position.

Other goalies use more of a wide base with their setup. This stance can be effective too, especially for the taller goalies but it does come with some pros and cons that I discuss in this post (wide base stance).

 

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When you analyze the play of today’s top MLL and PLL goalies, you’ll notice that the majority use a slightly wider than shoulder width and the rest use the wide base.

We should also be on the balls of our feet so that we’re ready to move. You should be able to slide a credit card underneath your heels.

Bent Knees

The second element of a perfect lacrosse goalie stance is to have your knees bent nice and low.

Having bent knees automatically puts us in an athletic position.

If you bend your knees nice and low, it’s very easy to popup for the higher shots and the bent knees means you’re already lower to the ground to simplify the process of saving low shots.

Another benefit of having your knees bent is that the weight automatically goes on the balls of your feet which is want we want.

We don’t want to have our weight on the toes nor on the heels.

Many goalie coaches teach their goalies to have their weight on their toes. The problem with that is the goalies are off-balance and falling forward as to the shooter winds up or makes a fake.

We want a stance that is completely still when the shooter is the winding up.

Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

Here is Trevor Tierney setup in a perfect lacrosse goalie stance.

How much you bend your knees will depend on your personal style and what feels most comfortable for you. Some goalies get into a deeper squat while others choose a slight knee bend.

But the important thing is you must have bent knees in the perfect lacrosse goalie stance.

Straight, Flat Back with Slight Bend At Hips

Having a nice straight, flat back in your stance ensures you take up as much room as possible in the goal.

We’ll also ensure our shoulders are broad for the same reason. However nothing awkward, as we always want to be comfortable in our lacrosse goalie stance.

As we make saves we always want to be “BIG” in the cage. Having a straight back in your stance and during the save process will help ensure we’re staying BIG and thus increase our save percentage.

While keeping my back straight I like to have a slight bend forward at the hips. Always in a comfortable, athletic manner.

45 degrees of bend is too much. I’d recommend something like 20 degrees which puts us in a comfortable, athletic position. This is going to position our chest slightly in front of our hips.

Your back and chest should always be square to the shooter.

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Side angle of a great lacrosse goalie stance.

I love the visualization of thinking of the NFL linebacker stance, a position that the great John Galloway refers to as “Ray Lewis Ready”.

 

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Great lacrosse goalie stance = Ray Lewis ready. Term I learned from the great John Galloway.

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Hands Well Positioned

Hand position is extremely important. Both in where your hands are on the stick and their positioning to your body.

I like to have my hands about chest-width apart or about 12 inches (30 cm) apart.

If your hands are too wide, the rotation of the stick becomes too long and will inhibit our ability to make those off-stick hip and off-stick low shots where the stick must fully rotate.

With your top-hand placement, you have a few options:

I prefer to setup with my top hand touching the plastic (#2 above) but I know plenty of goalies who like to grip the plastic to prevent stick rotation when the ball makes contact.

In certain circumstances, such as with a very small youth goalie (< 5 foot) it makes sense to have the top hand be under the plastic throat (#3 above) of the stick an inch in order to help the goalie reach all corners of the goal.

Regardless of where your top hand is, the bottom hand is about 12-18 inches below. With our hands that far apart we can make quick movements and rapid stick rotations when needed.

Place tape on your stick so that you know where your hands should be every time.

The final point regarding your hand position is that the top of your stick should not be above the crossbar when you set up in your stance. If it is, you’re protecting an area that’s not a goal and that’s a waste.

This means, taller goalies (about 6′ and above) either need more knee bend or lower hands so that the top of their stick is at the top of the goal.

Shorter goalies can have their hands as high their eyes if the stick doesn’t go past the top crossbar.

Or they can also set up very low like current MLL goalie Adam Ghitelman.

Ghitelman Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

Arms Out and Away From Body

The next element of the perfect stance is arms out away from your body.

If your arms are too tight, moving the stick around is a difficult task. Also with your stick in tight, it might become caught on your face mask or gear during a save.

Our arms should be out and away from our body while still maintaining a bend at the elbow. Locked elbows are no good as any locked joint is not an athletic position.

One tip to find the right arm position. Fully extend your elbows, then bring them 1/2 way back. This usually results in a nice athletic positioning of the arms.

To practice having your arms out and away from your body, try the Defensive Stick Drill where we use a long stick to make saves. If your hands are not out away from your body in this drill, the long stick will hit the goal.

By having our hands out we can attack the ball quicker and reduce the amount of distance we need to cover to make a save.

Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance Scott Rodgers

Scott Rodgers’ goalie stance is seen above.

I don’t know all the details of a perfect lacrosse defensive stance for long-poles but I’m pretty sure that defender in the pic is NOT doing it 🙂

Proper Grip on the Stick

When we grab the lacrosse shaft with our hands we want to grip to be loose – ideally with only our thumb, first, and second fingers.

The grip should be loose while still maintaining control of your goalie stick.

The light grip with the thumb and forefinger allows the hands to rotate to cover all corners of the goal.

Your hands should be on the stick so that the wrists are to the back of the stick. Again, this will provide the best rotation of the stick to all areas of the cage.

You should be able to freely and easily rotate the stick 360 degrees with no limitations. If you can do that, you’ve got the right grip.

The goalie’s grip exposes the goalie’s thumb to damage from shots so be sure you’ve got a pair of lacrosse goalie gloves that have a reinforced thumb to protect yourself.

Relaxed

The final element of a perfect lacrosse goalie stance is to be completely relaxed.

We cannot have tension in our body because it limits our ability to react.

One of the main reason we give up rebounds is that we’re stiff. Also one of the main reasons we bite on fakes or have a false step is because our bodies are too tense and we go for that first movement.

We’re gripping the stick nice and light with our hands too. And all other limbs are relaxed and ready to go.

If you’re relaxed in your stance you can stay in it all day. Or at least long enough to endure a long 4-minute possession from the opposing team.

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Putting the stance into practice

Once you’re able to set up in the perfect lacrosse goalie stance, one great exercise is the mirror training lacrosse drill.

That is, set up in front of a mirror and see how your stance looks.

Your lacrosse goalie coach can provide feedback on your stance but once you understand the basics you can practice it in front of the mirror to ensure consistency and perfection every time.

Another great drill is to walk the line where we practice our stance by visualizing and making imaginary saves. Before making a save in this drill, setup in your stance.

Work on the things you need to correct to make your stance perfect.

With the goalies I coach one thing I constantly harp on is the need to be able to get into the same exact stance over and over, without thinking about it.

The perfect stance should just be 2nd nature for every goalie. And this only comes through repetition.

If you’re uncomfortable in your stance you might need to build the leg and shoulder muscles to increase their endurance.

Images of the Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

I often find it helps to study the pros so here are photos of MLL goalies setup in their stances.

Each goalie is going to have a little uniqueness to their goalie stance but notice how every goalie is in an athletic position to make a save.

Do you see the 7 elements of the perfect lacrosse goalie stance demonstrated throughout these photos?

Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance 2

Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance 3 Perfect Lacrosse Stance Ghitelman

Queener Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance Rodgers Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

Adams Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance Ghitleman

Here is PLL Redwood goalie Tim Troutner discussing how he teaches the perfect lacrosse goalies stance:

 

Conclusion

A goalie’s stance is crucial to his or her ability to consistently make saves.

By ensuring that you’ve got these 7 elements covered you’ll be setting yourself up for success:

  • Feet a little wider than shoulder width apart
  • Knees bent
  • Flat, straight back with a slight lean forward
  • Hands chest-wide or about 12 in apart
  • Arms out and away from the chest
  • Relaxed

By covering those 7 elements we are guaranteed to be in an athletic position ready to make saves.

The trick is we need to practice and practice because you shouldn’t have to think of these 7 things to get into a great stance. It should be 100% natural!

Like many other elements of lacrosse goalie play, there are many different stances that goalies will use. But all good stances have these 7 elements in common.

Until next time! Coach Damon

What are your tips for the perfect lacrosse goalie stance? Let me know in the comments. 

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14 thoughts on “The 7 Elements Of The Perfect Lacrosse Goalie Stance

    1. Queener and Scott Rodgers do setup with their hands a little wider than I typically recommend. But goes to show there’s more than 1 way to play. Others seem to have hands setup about chest width apart in my opinion.

  1. Hey coach, thanks for writing this article, it is very helpful. My question is regarding hand positioning. I’m in my first year of playing goalie and recently got moved up to play Varsity after our JV season ended. The guys on varsity shoot a lot harder, and sometimes in practice the head of my stick rotates or goes back when hit by a shot, and the ball goes in when I should have saved it. I thought a tighter grip would fix it, but I know you say here to have a loose grip. What should I do? Thanks!

    1. Start with a loose top hand and tighten on impact. The head should not be rotating on contact. A tighter bottom hand will help reduce any rotation too. But you do want to have the top hand loose, a death grip on the stick will hurt you in low shots when you have to rotate. Will also give up a lot more rebounds with a tight grip. Hope that helps.

      1. You may also want to improve your grip strength. Having stronger hands means a relative “loose grip” is tighter than that if your hands and wrists are weaker. You don’t want your grip to be strained or tense. Making sure you have good fresh tape on your stick can help with this too.

        1. Yeah good point Brian. I find lacrosse players generally develop good grip strength through practice and stick handling. Did you do specific things to increase your grip strength?

  2. Great write-up re: stance. One suggestion is to re-order the sections of the post so that it follows a physical progression of each part of the stance, starting with the feet up and up to the top of the stick. Feet, knees, chest/back, arms, hands, stick, and of course, relax. That allows for a visual mnemonic that coaches can provide to their players, and that players will more easily remember in the heat of battle. Other than that, spot on.

  3. I am constantly told to keep my thumb when I am holding my stick above my chin. I am a taller female goalie at 5’9, and am used to playing with my thumb lower. I have had goalie coaches tell me to keep my thumb like this so I can easily make the high saves for example on crease roles. What is your opinion on this, as I feel more comfortable playing with my thumb lower, but might be missing saves because of it, and I am having coaches and my parents telling me to have my “thumb up?” Thanks!

    1. I would say at chin level or even just below chin level is what I recommend for goalies now. Any higher and you typically find goalies top hand will tend to drop, before going to the shot, when the shot is incoming.

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